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Most Bitcoin treasury companies are sitting on their Bitcoin and paying custody fees. But there's a way to make that Bitcoin work, earning native yield on the Lightning Network, without giving up your keys or taking on counterparty risk.
Dave Lund, co-founder of FlowRate, joins Jordan Walker to break down one of the most underexplored business models in Bitcoin right now, and why treasury companies may be the key to unlocking the Lightning Network's next phase of growth.
Available now on YouTube and all podcast platforms.
Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network: https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/
CONTACT JORDAN:
X: https://x.com/JayW132
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/
Email: hello@bitcoincollective.co
CONTACT DAVE:
X: https://x.com/davelund_
Flowrate: https://www.flowrate.com/
Chapters:
00:00 Coming Up
00:31 Welcome and why Lightning matters
01:13 Dave’s background and why he built Flowrate
03:12 Swedish Bitcoin Association and Lightning growth
04:37 Bitcoin as asset vs money and why payments matter
08:51 Utility argument and why Lightning unlocks adoption
10:53 What Flowrate is and the Lightning “ISP” analogy
19:29 How Flowrate works with treasury companies
27:11 Liquidity leasing explained for businesses
34:00 The inbound liquidity problem and why it blocks adoption
42:30 Security trade-offs and how to deploy safely
54:02 ARK and what comes after Lightning
55:30 Closing thoughts and follow-up plan
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All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.
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EDITED BY JAMES PEARCE
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/
Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.
#Bitcoin #Flowrate #lightningnetwork
The Lightning Network Business Model Nobody Is Talking About
How to Earn Yield on Bitcoin Without Giving Up Your Keys
Why Treasury Companies Need Lightning
Dave Lund, co-founder of FlowRate, joins Jordan Walker to break down one of the most underexplored business models in Bitcoin right now, and why treasury companies may be the key to unlocking the Lightning Network's next phase of growth.
Available now on YouTube and all podcast platforms.
Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network: https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/
CONTACT JORDAN:
X: https://x.com/JayW132
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/
Email: hello@bitcoincollective.co
CONTACT DAVE:
X: https://x.com/davelund_
Flowrate: https://www.flowrate.com/
Chapters:
00:00 Coming Up
00:31 Welcome and why Lightning matters
01:13 Dave’s background and why he built Flowrate
03:12 Swedish Bitcoin Association and Lightning growth
04:37 Bitcoin as asset vs money and why payments matter
08:51 Utility argument and why Lightning unlocks adoption
10:53 What Flowrate is and the Lightning “ISP” analogy
19:29 How Flowrate works with treasury companies
27:11 Liquidity leasing explained for businesses
34:00 The inbound liquidity problem and why it blocks adoption
42:30 Security trade-offs and how to deploy safely
54:02 ARK and what comes after Lightning
55:30 Closing thoughts and follow-up plan
READ OUR NEWSLETTER:
https://newsletter.bitcoincollective.co/
LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE:
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06sBiOznJDxuhafDmkE9VK?si=3f0a8bb8abd64eec
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-bitcoin-collective/id1561573613
Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/AYHiNhTTv0HOgGEjRjWN
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bitcoincollective?sub_confirmation=1
All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.
⸻
EDITED BY JAMES PEARCE
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/
Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.
#Bitcoin #Flowrate #lightningnetwork
The Lightning Network Business Model Nobody Is Talking About
How to Earn Yield on Bitcoin Without Giving Up Your Keys
Why Treasury Companies Need Lightning
