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Has the Debt Spiral Started? | Luke Gromen

Luke Gromen is the founder of Forest for the Trees. In this episode, we discuss why the U.S. debt cycle is reaching a breaking point, how AI and geopolitics are accelerating structural change, and why we could be witness...

2025-10-15

Episode notes

Luke Gromen is the founder of Forest for the Trees. In this episode, we discuss why the U.S. debt cycle is reaching a breaking point, how AI and geopolitics are accelerating structural change, and why we could be witnessing the endgame of the fiat era.


We get into why stablecoins may represent the next phase of the petrodollar system, the rise of financial repression, the return of inflation as a political tool, and why gold and Bitcoin are the only real safe havens this decade.


He also lays out how AI threatens the debt-based monetary system itself, why autonomous labor could cause mass unemployment, and why meaning, not money, might become society’s scarcest resource.


In this episode:


- Why the Fed has to cut rates and inflate away debt


- The new “petrodollar” built on stablecoins


- The coming wave of financial repression


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