In this episode, William Green talks with Jason Karp, a prodigiously talented investor & entrepreneur whom he also profiled in his book, “Richer, Wiser, Happier.” Jason founded Tourbillon Capital Partners, where he managed $4.5 billion. He then quit the hedge fund business & created HumanCo, a holding company that invests in the health & wellness sector. Here, he speaks with extraordinary candor about his relentless quest for financial & professional success, & how his obsession with overachievement almost destroyed him.
IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:
00:00 - Intro
04:27 - How Jason Karp switched from underachiever to “hyper-neurotic overachiever.”
09:32 - How his obsession with productivity devastated his health.
25:01 - How he transformed his health, healing diseases that seemed incurable.
35:34 - What he learned about how to eat well for health & longevity.
53:13 - Why it’s helpful to “confuse your body” with random stressors.
54:32 - How the best investors succeed by deferring gratification.
1:09:17 - How Jason simplifies his life to reduce the impact of “decision fatigue.”
1:13:37 - How he designed his hedge fund’s offices to promote productivity & good health.
1:25:08 - What’s helped him most in dealing with his mental health challenges.
1:25: 25 - How he came to be suicidally depressed at the pinnacle of his investment career.
1:28:24 - How he thinks about money, family, happiness, & fulfillment.
1:29:24 - Why founding a health & wellness conglomerate brought him a new level of joy.
Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences.
BOOKS AND RESOURCES
- Jason Karp’s company, HumanCo.
- Hu Chocolate brand co-created by Jason Karp.
- Why Zebras Don’t Get Ulcers by Robert Sapolsky.
- Undo It! by Dean Ornish M.D. & Anne Ornish
- The Longevity Diet by Valter Longo.
- Peter Attia’s book Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity
- Young Forever by Dr. Mark Hyman
- Tara Brach’s book, “Radical Acceptance,” & her website.
- How To Change Your Mind by Michael Pollan.
- William Green’s book, “Richer, Wiser, Happier” – read the reviews of this book.
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