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"People say 'I believe in vaccines.' Nobody says that about seatbelts."
Aaron Siri is the managing partner of Siri & Glimstad and, by most measures, the most consequential vaccine litigator in America. He's the attorney behind the famous nine-hour deposition of Dr. Stanley Plotkin — the man they call the godfather of vaccines — lead counsel for the Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN), a 2025 Senate witness, and a central legal figure in the RFK-era reshaping of federal vaccine policy. His new book is Vaccines, Amen: The Religion of Vaccines — in his words, "a cross-examination in book form."
This one steps outside the show's usual lane, and I want to be upfront: this is not medical advice, I'm not a doctor, and everything Aaron argues here is his own case — where it's contested by public-health bodies, treat it as one side of an open debate. What ties it to this show is the question we always ask: how do you know what's real when you're not allowed to check? From there we go deep — how a custody case led to the legendary Plotkin deposition; the Hepatitis B shot Aaron says was licensed on a trial of 147 kids, five days of monitoring, and no control group; the 1986 law he calls "the original sin" that handed vaccine makers liability immunity; the Ford Pinto and what punitive damages actually do; informed consent versus the right to refuse; whether vaccines really stop transmission; and the measles-mortality data he argues almost no one talks about. A conversation about evidence, incentives, and who gets to audit the people in charge.
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Aaron Siri — Managing partner of Siri & Glimstad. Lead counsel for the Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN). Author of the new book Vaccines, Amen: The Religion of Vaccines.
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For entertainment and educational purposes only. Nothing in this episode is medical, legal, financial, or investment advice. The views and claims expressed are the guest's own and are contested by public-health bodies; always talk to your own physician and do your own research.
